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Yes They Can.

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COMPLETE DEDITACATION

For it is impossible to bring back to repentance those who were once enlightened — those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come — and who then turn away from God. Hebrews 6:4-6 new living testament

 

There is a big misconception amongst many Christians regarding salvation.

They believe once saved, always saved.

This verse seems to contradict that believe very strongly.

Now some may reply that they were not real Christians to begin with.

That may be true but it is also true that for many it starts with a little turning away like not praying, then it escalates into not reading your Bible, not associating with brothers and sisters, not praying and eventually cumulating in complete withdrawal from Christ.

So, yes they can, will and do lose their salvation.

I have seen it in numerous Christians who once were very strong in the walk but are now no more Christian than Satan.

That is why we are to stay alert and prayerful every day.

It also helps to have at least one fellow believer that holds you accountable. There is, after all, strength in numbers. And just as we need mentor so too do we need to mentor others.

 

Prayer: Please Holy Spirit knock me over the head if necessary to prevent me from taking one step out of Your divine guidance in my life. I cannot imagine nor do I desire to living one moment without Jehovah, Jesus and You in my life. I respectfully request this request in the name of He who paid such a high price for my acceptance into this hollowed family Jesus Christ. Amen.

May the sunshine of Jesus’ sweet love bless you today and every day.

Author: ropheka

As Christ is our King, so too are we His free will servants Joseph a son of Jehovah I have been a faithful servant of our Lord for the past forty years. He has led me to move from the farm to the city. It was there I learned natural medicine as well as to serve by doin volunteer work in a hospital. This was preparing me for the next stage of growth and service unto Him. The next phase was to live in a tent in the western provinces of Canada planting trees. It has here in His marvelous creation of nature that He taught me so much of Himself while serving others in camp as a first aid attendant. If anybody got sick or injured they always came to me. As well, I learned to be a big brother and care about their mental health and for most, it was the first time they were ever loved. This caring for others prepared me for the next step which was to be a teacher all over China. Here not only did my example guide many to our Heavenly King but also taught me how to deal with narcissist. This prepared me to come home to take care of a narcissistic mother while dealing with narcissist family members. It was in China that the Lord also guided me to become a Christian writer which has been faithfully done for the past ten years. I know not what will happen tomorrow but I know who holds tomorrow in His hands and it is Him I place my total confidence and trust in. Joseph a son of Jehovah

7 thoughts on “Yes They Can.

  1. If it’s impossible for a person to return when they walk away, losing their salvation, then it would follow that Peter is in hell since he denied the Savior. But the Savior did bring him back to repentance. Which would render this passage a bit more difficult to decipher. I’m just making an observation.

  2. Hi Joseph, I absolutely agree that it is good for believers to have fellowship for the purpose of encouragement and accountability. It is also good to look at your life and see areas where you can improve, such as time in prayer, biblical reading, etc. A follower of Christ would by his or her regenerated nature have the desire for these things, though it is the indwelling Spirit who gives us this desire (and recall there is an ongoing battle between flesh and Spirit). I really appreciate your encouragement for mentoring and I think it’s something the church today desperately needs more of!

    I myself have wrestled with the concept of eternal security scripturally (I was also forced to defend and make an argument for being able to lose your salvation for a seminary paper lol). The Hebrews passage that you are quoting is a tricky one to understand, it’s much discussed among NT scholars, and it’s critical to look at it in context. What comes before and after? Who is the writer of Hebrews talking to and who is he talking about? When we go on to read verse 9 and following, it’s interesting what we see the writer say of believers. Just as importantly, what does the whole of scripture say? It is tricky forming a doctrine or understanding based on just one verse.

    This is an important issue to understand as otherwise it negatively impacts God’s sovereignty and also makes salvation conditional upon our performance. It also calls into question the validity of many important scriptures, such as “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.” (John 10:28-29b) Or, “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.” (John 6:37) Also John 6:44, John 6:65, John 17:9, and others.

    Some thoughts….

    If we need to work at our salvation in the sense of maintaining it against loss, then Christ’s sufficiency is called into question. His work on the cross wasn’t sufficient, in that case, and we need to add to it.

    Another thing. If we did have to maintain our salvation through this kind of effort, then how will we know when we have done enough? How will we be sure our performance is “enough” for God? Aren’t we now crossing into the area of works-salvation? Gal. 3:3

    Can a person who is born be unborn? John 3:3, Titus 3:5

    John 3:15 says that whoever believes in Christ will have eternal life. If we can lose eternal life, then the bible’s promises of it being eternal weren’t true. Does God give something and then take it back? Does He promise something and then not fulfill His promise?

    Rather than make a full argument here, which isn’t really appropriate anyway, I’m offering a few links where this is covered well and simply:

    Can a Christian lose salvation? http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-lose-salvation.html

    If our salvation is eternally secure, why does the Bible warn so strongly against apostasy?
    http://www.gotquestions.org/apostasy-salvation.html

    The second one addresses (albeit briefly) your experience with people who seemed to be Christians and then fell away, as you described. I think of Judas who followed Christ for three years before he revealed his true self. And in the church today, I’m sad to say that there are similar people, goats among the sheep. I pray that instead of continuing in religiosity, these people would, through God’s grace, be truly saved.

    I humbly encourage you to review these articles and search the scriptures for yourself. In kindness, I remain your sister in Christ. 🙂

    • The point is that people turn from God and therefore lose their inheritance in Heaven. The Israelites were promised the promised land but lost it because they turned from Jehovah.

  3. Or maybe they were not saved in the first place and only wanted the rewards

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